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Actually, a sizable portion of HN thinks that Apple will start to take after Microsoft in the 90's in regards to the web. (They also seem to think Google made WebKit's inspector pane.)

A big complaint is about the -webkit prefix, despite the fact that A List Apart and Zeldman champion it as reducing the amount of browser hacks needed due to the inconsistencies in rendering. (Think how wonderful an -ie6 prefix would be. Now, think about a CSS parser that doesn't fail in specific ways allowing the dev to target it. border-top-left-radius can't be targeted to a specific render, but screws up in different browsers, so it has to be rendered through JS or conditional stylesheets.)

I can't find the actual topical discussion in google, so here's one that links to a news article about the quote in relation to Facebook:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1929796



I think Jobs has been repeatedly clear that iOS supports two platforms: the web, an industry standard Apple tries hard to advance to the best of its ability, and iOS, which Apple keeps proprietary and advances to the best of their ability that way. Apple is devoting significant resources to developing both (in leu of focusing 100% of engineering on either), as an experiment, if you will.

Now, if only web apps on iOS could enter into full-screen mode like native apps...


Now, if only web apps on iOS could enter into full-screen mode like native apps...

They can. You need to add some additional metadata to the header, and the user needs to save that url to their homescreens (homescreens? does that even make sense?), but once done the web app looks like a native one. You can even define a splash screen to display while the page loads.

Edit: here's the line you need (from http://raphaelcaixeta.com/blog/2010/08/13/meta-tags-to-help-...)

    <meta name="apple-mobile-web-app-capable" content="yes" />


Excellent, yes. This is what Glyphboard does.

Thanks for pasting the code & a link.


> homescreens? does that even make sense?

It's generally called Springboard.


I thought the argument was that the App Store encouraged per-website apps instead of just using "The Web"...?


Both arguments are made. Although frankly I think with Android and WP7 presenting credible threats to Apple, they aren't in a position to dictate. With this amount of competition, MS, Google, and Apple all have to fight on all fronts.

Only until one has a monopoly like position will we know their true motivations... I prefer not to know any of their motivations. :-)




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