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If they're under an organised defamation campaign, they're not helping themselves by DDoSing someone else's blog and editing archived pages.


Is that, itself, true or disinformation?


They did edit archived pages. They temporarily did a find/replace on their archive to replace "Nora Puchreiner" (an alias the site operator uses) with "Jani Patokallio" (the name of the blogger who wrote about archive.today's owner). https://megalodon.jp/2026-0219-1634-10/https://archive.ph:44...

They also tampered with their archive for a few of the social media sites (Twitter, Instagram, Blogger) by changing the name of the signed in account to Jani Patokallio. https://megalodon.jp/2026-0220-0320-05/https://archive.is:44...

I think Wikipedia made the right decision, you can't trust an archival service for citations if every time the sysop gets in a row they tamper with their database.


This is so ‘early internet beef’ quaint. What next? Are they going to G-line each other?


It it utterly stupid when you consider that the host needed to replace their username with something to conceal their user accounts.



The Reddit CEO's life isn't in danger from people knowing who he is, to be fair.


I've not seen any evidence of them editing archived pages BUT the DDOSing of gyrovague.com is true and still actively taking place. The author of that blog is Finnish leading archive.today to ban all Finnish IPs by giving them endless captcha loops. After solving the first captcha, the page reloads and a javascript snippet appears in the source that attempts to spam gyrovague.com with repeated fetches.


> I've not seen any evidence of them editing archived pages

There is evidence of this in the article you're commenting on.


How do you know that? Did you see it (do you have a Finnish IP?)?


Yes I have Finnish IP and just before I wrote that post I tested it to make sure it was still happening.

I assume it must be a blanket ban on Finnish IPs as there has been comments about it on Reddit and none of my friends can get it to work either. 5 different ISPs were tried. So at the very least it seems to affect majority of Finnish residential connections.


> just before I wrote that post I tested it to make sure it was still happening

That's awesome. I wish everyone made sure of their facts. Thanks.


This is quite an interesting question. For a single datapoint, I happen to have access to a VPN that's supposedly in Finland, and connecting through that didn't make any captcha loop appear on archive.today. The page worked fine.

Now it's obviously possible that my VPN was whitelisted somehow, or that the GeoIP of it is lying. This is just a singular datapoint.


As another datapoint with Finnish IP from Mullvad VPN: CAPTCHA loop and indeed after solving first CAPTCHA this can be found in page source:

setInterval(function(){fetch("https://gyrovague.com/tag/"+Math.random().toString(36).subst...",{ referrerPolicy:"no-referrer",mode:"no-cors" });},1400);


It’s also pretty common for VPNs to have exit nodes physically located in different counties to where they report those IPs (to GeoIP databases) as having originated from.


VPNs usually don't tell you much about residential experiences.


It was true and visible when reported, yeah.


I've also noticed archive.today injecting suspicious looking ads into archived pages that originally did not have ads.



it gives them a voice.


And that voice is practically shouting, "I AM UNTRUSTWORTHY".


that is not the worst scream (especially after FBI and Russian trail). better to shout anything than to die in silence


What kinda logic is that? If you don't want to die in silence, then shout something sensical. But if you're gonna shout garbage, just die in silence.


People say they want the old weird web back. Well there’s this.


The property of the medium: no one would repost or discuss "something sensical".


Or some shrewd sort of tactician.




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